Two Baptists and a Mormon Walk Into a Pentecostal Church

Episode 9 - Charismatic Worship: Wild or Wonderful

In this episode the hosts unpack charismatic worship—its bold expressions, surprising moments, and why some call it wild while others call it wonderful. They share personal stories from worship teams, altars, and fire tunnels, and discuss tongues, falling out, and the role of excellence and order.Through scripture, experience, and honest reflection they explore how authenticity, heart posture, and spiritual leadership shape powerful worship moments, and why balance between freedom and order matters for every church.

Episode 8 - Tongues, Prophecy and the Weird Stuff

A personal and biblical conversation about the spiritual gifts that often cause the most tension in the modern Church: tongues, prophecy, and unusual manifestations. Disarming fear and confusion by exploring Scripture and sharing our own stories. Encouraging believers to seek the Spirit, not just comfort or tradition.

Episode 7: The gifts...Ceased or Still active

In this episode, we step into one of the most debated topics in the Church—are the gifts of the Spirit still active today, or did they cease after the time of the apostles? We unpack both sides of the conversation: cessationism, which argues that tongues, prophecy, and healing were only for the early Church, and continuationism, which believes those gifts are still for today.
We walk through key Scriptures used on both sides and share how our own experiences with the Holy Spirit shifted our perspectives. This isn’t just a theological debate for us—it’s personal. We've seen the gifts in action, felt the tension, and wrestled with the questions. In the end, we talk about where we landed and why we believe the gifts still matter for the Church right now.
If you’ve ever been confused, skeptical, or just curious about the spiritual gifts, this episode is a great place to start the conversation.

Episode 6 - Indwelling & Infilling

The Holy Spirit does more than give us moments of inspiration. He takes up residence within every believer. But what is the difference between being indwelt by the Spirit and being filled with the Spirit?
In this episode, we explore what the Bible says about the Spirit's role at salvation and what it means to be filled continually as we grow in our walk with God. We share how our understanding has shifted, what we have experienced personally, and why this difference matters. If you are hungry for more of God and want to live with power and purpose, this conversation will speak to you.

Episode 5 - Then the Spirit Moved

Before the wind rushed through an upper room… before tongues of fire fell… the Spirit of God was already moving. From hovering over the waters in Genesis to igniting hearts in the book of Acts, the Spirit has always been active—calling, filling, leading, and transforming.
In this episode, we reflect on the timeless movement of the Holy Spirit and the very personal ways we've experienced Him in our own lives. Each of us shares the moment when the Spirit broke through our religious expectations and lit something inside us that we couldn’t explain—but couldn’t ignore.
This isn’t just about emotional experiences—it’s about encountering the same Spirit who’s been moving since the beginning of time. If you’ve ever wondered if there’s more to this life with God... this episode is your invitation to find out.

Episode 4 – When the Fire Finds You: Brian Lawing's Story

In this episode, we hear from Brian Lawing—husband to Krystal, dad to Edie, Cameron, and Sophie, and Poppy to three granddaughters, a grandson on earth, and one already in heaven. Brian shares how years of steady faith as a Baptist gave way to something deeper when pain, loss, and longing collided with the presence of God. Now an elder at Restoring Hope Church, Brian opens up about what it means to live a life led by the Spirit, shaped by brokenness, and anchored in hope. This is a story about surrender—and the kind of fire you don’t chase, but that finds you when you're ready.

Episode 3 – From Doctrine to Discovery: Jeremy Cato’s Journey

In this episode, we sit down with Jeremy Cato—husband to Christina, dad to Tyler, Tony, and Marissa. He and Christina are the children’s pastors at Restoring Hope Church. Raised in the Mormon faith, Jeremy opens up about the slow unraveling of old beliefs and the surprising moments that led him into a Spirit-filled life. He shares how his past informs his passion for ministry and what it means to truly walk in relationship with Jesus. It’s a story of discovery, redemption, and purpose—told with honesty, depth, and a whole lot of heart.

Episode 2 – Meet Jon Penhollow: From Baptist Roots to Spirit-Filled Leadership

In this episode, we sit down with Jon Penhollow—husband to Terah, father of Logan, elder at Restoring Hope Church, and longtime Sunday school teacher. Jon’s journey from Baptist tradition to a vibrant Pentecostal faith is full of heart, humility, and Holy Spirit surprises. We talk about what shaped his early beliefs, what drew him deeper into the presence of God, and how his role as a husband, father, and church leader is rooted in both Scripture and surrender. This one is rich with wisdom, warmth, and a few good laughs along the way.

Episode 1 - Intro & Why???

Welcome to the very first episode of Two Baptists and a Mormon Walk Into a Pentecostal Church. In this kickoff conversation, we’re pulling back the curtain on why we’re starting this podcast—and why now. We share a bit about our friendship, our wildly different religious upbringings, and the unlikely path that led all three of us to the same Spirit-filled church. This episode sets the tone for what’s to come: real talk, honest questions, and a desire to follow Jesus more authentically—wherever He leads.
email us if you have comments or questions brian.lawing@gmail.com

The Trailer

Join us on an intriguing journey where two Baptists and a Mormon come together under one Pentecostal roof, exploring the true essence of faith beyond traditional boundaries. This podcast dives into the deconstruction of religious norms, unraveling tales of spiritual healing, hope, and the profound discovery of what God truly represents in our lives. Every week we tackle faith-based questions, share personal stories of transformation, and delve into the Scriptures, revealing what it means to follow Jesus in today's world filled with distractions. We invite everyone, from any denomination or even those without one, to be part of this enlightening journey.